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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 13, 2004 21:59:02 GMT -5
Michael Moore's had failed to impress me on this film. Although this movie had a very interesting and good plot, but the entire movie was reflected with a one-side plot. If you'd seen the movie, you would understands what I mean. This movie was a total disappointment for me.
Throughout the entire running hours of the movie, Moore never ceased to make his audience view President Bush as a bad man.
On September 11, 2001, Bush was at a school reading books with first graders. After a while later, the news of the US being attacked by terrorists were informed to him. Moore claimed that Bush didn't have the slightest concern. He suggested that Bush should have stood up and announced aloud that he will defend this nation, that he will give orders and serve this country its rights. But how can you expect that? He's sitting in a room full of first graders. Wouldn't that act frighten the students who is happily reading to him? However, the expression that was plastered against Bush's face showed true concerns.
I was frustrated during the viewing of this movie, though there were many facts in the story, since it's real footage of various events. However, it would have been nice to see Moore's reflect on both side instead of one side, which is making it as if Bush was a bad person, not having any concern toward his country.
Overall, this movie received two stars out of five (**/*****). I would give it a one, but due to some facts that were shown, it deserves more than a one. But it would receive full points in deceiving viewers of the situation.
How did you enjoy this movie?
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Post by April on Jul 14, 2004 2:56:41 GMT -5
i still want to see this movie, but no one i know [that's over 17] is willing to take me or is interesting. i guess i have to wait 'til the DVD =\
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 16, 2004 4:23:09 GMT -5
Hehe... It is a pretty good movie, although I don't really think it should be call a documentary. But if you're disgusted with scenes of kids' faces being exploded, missing hands and other body parts, and murdered US soldiers being burned and dragged behind the cars through the streets... I wouldn't recommend it. I didn't expected any of that, and now... I'm like just shaking at it. Plsh... it would have been better if those were acts, but it was actually the real footage in Iraq. It just makes you feel bad for the peoples, and realize what a callous act war really is. Just so gruesome... I'm never stepping a feet in the theater to watch that movie again.
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Post by pinkysware9 on Jul 17, 2004 16:44:37 GMT -5
I havn't even seen this movie and i refuse to give the horrible hateful man who created it ANY of my money. I am discusted at how so many Americans can treat their leaders this badly. I could understand people saying some bad things and disliking bush and all but this is taking it WAY to far. Some people just have no respect and are full of HATE HATE HATE.
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Post by ThoseSummerNights on Jul 17, 2004 20:56:47 GMT -5
I havn't even seen this movie and i refuse to give the horrible hateful man who created it ANY of my money. I am discusted at how so many Americans can treat their leaders this badly. I could understand people saying some bad things and disliking bush and all but this is taking it WAY to far. Some people just have no respect and are full of HATE HATE HATE. I agree with you. Regardless of what people's opinions are, they need to understand that Moore's movie is PROPAGANDA not fact. If they want to go spend $9 for a 2 hour Bush bash, let them. But I would never indulge in such crap.
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Post by Katie on Jul 18, 2004 0:41:07 GMT -5
Oh my god this is amazing! people who actually think this movie is stupid. I will never see this movie and Michael moore is nothing but a fat ass producer who could never produce a "real movie" sohe makes 'documentaries' Michael moore has NO IDEA what he is talking about which makes that movie such a waste.
just my opinion so don't shoot me. ha.
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Post by katryna on Jul 18, 2004 18:37:38 GMT -5
Oh my god this is amazing! people who actually think this movie is stupid. I will never see this movie and Michael moore is nothing but a fat ass producer who could never produce a "real movie" sohe makes 'documentaries' Michael moore has NO IDEA what he is talking about which makes that movie such a waste. just my opinion so don't shoot me. ha. i'm confused...did you like it or not I just saw this last night, and I really enjoyed it. It was very emotional and graphic and gave you much insight to the politics of politics While people will argue that Michael Moore was just bashing Bush and that the documentary IS one sided, all of the information was true. I'm no American, but i've never personally loved Bush...I mean, what other reason was there to murder innocent people in Iraq other than oil? i dunno...but I do know that after this, I've never been prouder to be a Canadian, lol.
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 19, 2004 0:50:08 GMT -5
Lol... Love to be a Canadian, eh Katryna? Haha... True. No need to bother with all these craps against Iraq. Anyways, yes... this movie is like a Bush bashing movie. I had not expected it. And yes, I did wasted my money on watching it, which I really want to take back. Haha... But I so agree with all you who is agreeing that Michael Moore is a pathetic producer. I really hate him after this movie. And can you believe that it still remains in the Top 5 spot?
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Post by katryna on Jul 20, 2004 11:04:20 GMT -5
I really hate him after this movie. And can you believe that it still remains in the Top 5 spot? one word my friend... controversy
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 20, 2004 15:11:51 GMT -5
one word my friend... controversyHaha... so it is.
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2004 13:47:04 GMT -5
Well, anyone who went not knowing what to expect did not do their homework. Forget all of Moore's previous work that clearly told the world his positions, but the fact that it was all over print and video media letting you know what you were getting into. Yes, it's a Bush bash, and the beautiful thing about it is that we live in a country where some one can make those types of movies and they are in the top 5. I would HATE to live in a country where movies like this were repressed and never shown to it's citizens because of over-bearing censorship. Whether you are Bush or Moore fan, you should be impressed with that. This is a country that we can publicly differ with our administration and not be flogged and jailed. I am sure that most of the people who bash F9/11 were all about going to see The Passion of the Christ.....which can easily be considered Christian propaganda. Face it, F9/11is Moore's view of Bush's time in office as The Passion is Gibson't view of the Bible....which not all people believe to be even factual. Democracy is a beautiful thing, only in places like America can we get two movies that envoke so much passion, thought, discussion and debate over what we believe and practice in. Personally I love both films. I am going to go back and Watch F9/11 again this weekend and take some friends with me who have yet to see it. I don't claim affiliation with any party, I am all about may the best PERSON win. I didn't go to this film to have him sway my vote, I went to see his opionion and then have an intelligent, spirited discussion with others to come to my own conclusion of what I think about the direction of this country. But to dismiss this film as garbage is completely laughable.....it got you talking...it got you thinking....just what a documentary is supposed to do.
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 23, 2004 18:17:00 GMT -5
Hmm, I never watched Passion of Christ. Haha... But 47% taken a poll at a website that the movie swayed their decision on who to vote this upcoming November. (The website was linked by Yahoo!). That's near half a percentage that this movie affected their thoughts. If everyone was like you, Angel, it would certainly be easier. Not swayed by movies with a one-sided plot. But eventually, there are people who get swayed and angered after viewing this, affecting the results of the November voting just because of a movie based mainly on Moore's perspectives or his intentions.
With that aside, I'm vex about another thing with this movie.
One thing that I totally agree in the movie is soldiers refusing to attend the war must be place behind bars. Yes, sound outlandish, but I agree to that idea, though Moore make it seems bad at some point. Why? Well, those who enlisted in the military have privileges, such as getting paid for their school fees, discounts and their montly social security payment are higher than regular businessmen. When enlisiting in the military, they should accept the fact that when they're needed, they must carry out the words on the contract they'd signed. Why are they complaining about being behind bars when they refuses to attend the war? I mean, you're getting many advantages for being enlisted in the army. What? Take the advantages when you barely deserve it?
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2004 21:36:46 GMT -5
I hate to tell you but a Yahoo poll is far from scientific, but anyway...people who are swayed by that movie would also be swayed by a campaign add.....wich are nothing but lies. The one Bush has out now is so twisted on it's facts that it's scary that it's even on the air. So far Kerry has kept his ads prettyclean, but I am sure it's only a matter of time before he starts the mud slinging. MOST of the people who see the film are going to vote Kerry or Nader, that's why they go...the agree with it. Again, the people who are swayed are such a minority and I are looking for anything to sway them. Just wait for the conventions and the debates and ask those same people then; I am sure they will have absorbed information from those events as well.
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 23, 2004 22:04:30 GMT -5
Lol... I'm kind of hoping for Kerry to win the election though I hated the movie and I just felt so bad for Bush. But I can't cast any votes... Still not the legal age yet. Though I want to. Anyway, Angel... who are you planning to vote for the upcoming November?
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Post by katryna on Jul 23, 2004 22:48:08 GMT -5
Lol... I'm kind of hoping for Kerry to win the election though I hated the movie and I just felt so bad for Bush. Well, Bush did get himself into all of those situations...nobody did it for him. I dunno, I always believed that Al Gore should've won the election, and that Bush was a bit of an idiot. I have no sympathy for him and his oil haha.
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