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Post by katryna on Jul 14, 2004 11:16:37 GMT -5
There was a lot of symbolism in the movie...here are a few i could come up with. However: I never seemed to only notice symbolism on a hit and miss basis when we analyzed Shakespeare...so if these examples aren't really symbolism, don't shoot me, haha. 1. The ducks/swans/geese...(whatever you want to call them) at the beginning of the movie when old allie's looking out the window. 2. Noah's red blanket...symbolic for...something. 3. In the first love making scene (of half love making scene, whatever ) allie made sure she took off her earings and her necklace before they "did the deed," lol. In the second one, she could care less. So i guess it's symbolic for how her feelings for noah changed from scared to passionate? meh. 4. When Allie says "Do you think i could've been a bird in another life, like reincarnation?" I'm guessing that's symbolic towards how Noah think's allie's a swan in "the wedding," but i'm not sure... those are all i can think of right now...if they're even accurate
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Post by lindseyloo72001 on Jul 14, 2004 14:01:46 GMT -5
[glow=pink,2,300]I completely agree, katryna! Birds seemed to be a dominant theme throughout the entire movie (Allie asks if she could have been a bird in another life, and there are plenty of birds/ducks/geese shown throughout the entire thing (the ending, and when Noah takes Allie out on the boat)). Also, the red blanket is really symbolic, I think. It shows up in their first love scene, and then later...I think it's in their second love scene, and I know both characters wrap up in it. I think it's nice that the same blanket shows up so many times and is heavily associated with their lovemaking. Her earrings and necklace...hehe, I don't know why she took them off in the first scene...but it was just the earrings that she took off, right? I think the necklace stayed on. I'm not sure what that would symbolize. And I liked the whole shot of the birds at the end, but since they made both Allie and Noah die, I doubt it was a reference to The Wedding...I don't think they could make a movie out of that, now, but it might be a subtle reference for us Nicholas Sparks fans who know all about both books. That was a horrible ramble...sorry...just my thoughts. [/glow]
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Post by katryna on Jul 14, 2004 14:26:33 GMT -5
Yeah, i think the blanket was symbolic for their love...kinda like, how whenever either one of them was wrapped in it, they had the other one with them. for example... -allie wears the blanket all morning...symbolizing that even if noah wasn't there, a part of him could still be there with her -noah wraps the blanket around him when allie leaves, symbolizing that there was still a part of her that was with him. and nopes...the necklace was gone...she takes it off right before noah goes to kiss her on the blanket lol...i only noticed it the third time around.
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Post by LadyKatie on Jul 14, 2004 20:16:47 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one thought to say this.. when Noah met Allie's parents for the first time -- he was the only one wearing black -- everyone else was in white. Symbolizing the class differences between the two of them also, when they're in the pond of ducks, Allie says something like "What are they all doing here?" Noah: I don't know. They're supposed to migrate to ---- sound. Allie: They won't stay here? Noah: No, they'll go back to where they came from symbolizing their relationship....Allie didn't belong there at the summer home with him -- and they always go back to where they came from
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Post by katryna on Jul 14, 2004 23:00:10 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one thought to say this.. when Noah met Allie's parents for the first time -- he was the only one wearing black -- everyone else was in white. Symbolizing the class differences between the two of them i was actually thinking of that this afternoon...thats a really great one
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Post by lindseyloo72001 on Jul 14, 2004 23:59:33 GMT -5
[glow=orange,2,300]While I didn't notice Allie take off the necklace (good eyes!), I did notice Noah's wearing black...how obvious was that, hehe? It was like he missed the memo to wear white or cream. And yeah, I also caught the "They'll go back where they came from" comment...I'll post more if I think of any more things I noticed! ;D[/glow]
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Post by grkANGEL85 on Jul 15, 2004 1:18:50 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one thought to say this.. when Noah met Allie's parents for the first time -- he was the only one wearing black -- everyone else was in white. Symbolizing the class differences between the two of them also, when they're in the pond of ducks, Allie says something like "What are they all doing here?" Noah: I don't know. They're supposed to migrate to ---- sound. Allie: They won't stay here? Noah: No, they'll go back to where they came from symbolizing their relationship....Allie didn't belong there at the summer home with him -- and they always go back to where they came from haha yeah when he was wearing black, how singled out did he look? poor guy. though, he was wearing khakis. this is what confuses me: wasn't Fin also poor? it seemed like he was accepted and both of them worked at the lumberyard. With that quote about the ducks going back to where they came from, I noticed the symbolism. You can tell by the way Noah says it, he is referring to Allie.
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Post by LadyKatie on Jul 15, 2004 3:03:41 GMT -5
I think that Fin --- I don't know -- I remember him being a lot more richer than he was in the movie....but I don't really remember
but in the movie -- I think he ... hmm.. see this is what confuses me, because if he was -- then why didn't her parents care? If he was rich[er] -- then why did he work at the lumberyard?
*hmm*
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Post by grkANGEL85 on Jul 15, 2004 10:32:09 GMT -5
but in the movie -- I think he ... hmm.. see this is what confuses me, because if he was -- then why didn't her parents care? If he was rich[er] -- then why did he work at the lumberyard? *hmm* see, this is what confuses me too! lol
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 15, 2004 14:27:43 GMT -5
when they're in the pond of ducks, Allie says something like "What are they all doing here?" Noah: I don't know. They're supposed to migrate to ---- sound. Allie: They won't stay here? Noah: No, they'll go back to where they came from symbolizing their relationship....Allie didn't belong there at the summer home with him -- and they always go back to where they came from Yep, yep. When he commented about the geese/swans, it was referring it to Allie. And you notice her reaction from his comment. It was as if uncomfortable in some ways. But luckily, she didn't go back to where she came from.
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Post by memorylane on Jul 15, 2004 19:46:30 GMT -5
Birds definitely were the major symbolism of the movie. Except for at the beach, the birds were swans, for a reason, I think. Swans form what is called a "pair bond", mating for life. They migrate to lakes, ponds, etc. to mate and nest. They return to the same location - unless that location has been compromised. The movie opens up with old Allie looking out onto the creek with the swans flying about and old Noah rowing on the boat. The scene where Noah takes Allie to see the hundreds of swans; those were families of swans, parents and their offsprings. It actually is not unusual for a large colony to congregate, especially in a secluded area.
Noah telling Allie that the swans will go back where they came from is true, but they will return. Allie returned to Noah and they form a "pair bond" for life. That is the symbolism I see, Noah and Allie not the birds (a different species) from the beach, but the swans who mate for life. IMO, the swans and Noah and Allie were both home. At the end of their life, in the opening scene of the movie, you see both they and the swans are still together.
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Post by memorylane on Jul 15, 2004 19:59:20 GMT -5
The red blanket probably is the second strongest symbolism in the movie. It is another, significant symbol of their union, their bond. The color red is even a symbol of love. Either they both were wrapped up in that blanket, or one was when the other was gone. When Allie returns to Noah to be with him, Noah already wrapped up in that blanket holds it open and wraps her up in it with him, holding her to him. I just loved that moment. And I think in the opening scene the old Allie has that blanket wrapped around her shoulders (I will need to see the movie again to be sure). I am pretty certain though that the red blanket was not involved during their teenage years when first "attempting" to make love.
If Melyssa24 would just stop having to be the highest bidder on that blanket. Darn her.
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Post by katryna on Jul 15, 2004 22:47:45 GMT -5
When Allie returns to Noah to be with him, Noah already wrapped up in that blanket holds it open and wraps her up in it with him, holding her to him. I just loved that moment. And I think in the opening scene the old Allie has that blanket wrapped around her shoulders (I will need to see the movie again to be sure). I am pretty certain though that the red blanket was not involved during their teenage years when first "attempting" to make love. If Melyssa24 would just stop having to be the highest bidder on that blanket. Darn her. i don't think that old allie wears the blanket...take a look: unless its a different one, i'm not sure thats insane! while i loved that blanket, i would not pay what she's bidding for it. well, maybe if i'm rich...which she probably is...or doesn't buy anything except for things from movies.
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Post by memorylane on Jul 16, 2004 8:47:30 GMT -5
This is not the scene I am talking about. The very opening scene of the movie - old Allie is still in her and Noah's house and she is looking out an upstairs window onto the creek. She has a blanet wrapped around her shoulders. I thought it was red and wondered if it was the red blanket. I just need to see the movie again to be sure.
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Post by katryna on Jul 16, 2004 10:38:13 GMT -5
i know, but doesn't she wear the same one all day?*shrugs* I don't know, i forget too
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