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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jun 21, 2004 20:17:50 GMT -5
Woosh... I'd been skimming through a few websites lately. Repeatedly, I kept seeing different posts on "Titanic" is by far the best. I'm like going  I mean... I didn't like it much. It's good and all, but everyone stating that they cried so much for Titanic. First, I never did cry for that movie, except when the two old folks lied in bed and was about to die. I felt so bad for the two seniors. That's the only scene I found emotional. The others... ek.. ok, I guess.
But The Notebook, it actually makes me go teary eye mid way or before that. And it seems to hold more of a believable image for true love. I mean, at least it still hold onto the meaning of "The Notebook", which is a story about them. Titanic... it was three hours long, but like only spend one hour talking about it. While the other two about Winslet (did I get her name right) going behind her fiance back with another man. But I guess people have different views. It's just that everyone keep commenting that "Titanic" is better, which is a bit frustrating me. Funny how others opinion can get to you, huh? I believe it is because I'm so inlove with this film and the characters. ;D But I'm not yet crazy, just infatuated with such a heart-warming movie.  ;D
Eh.. and some is complaining how this movie was pathetic because it's have nothing about war, but except a minute or two. Hello! The gist of the novel and movie was about losing and discovering love again over a number of years. The war was placed in the movie just to let the audience know the war was one of the many reasons that kept them apart. And it's not titled, "World War II"! Not like Pearl Harbor in which the title represented a war, but honestly held nothing about it in the movie. Instead of details on Pearl Harbor, it was reflected on a bunch of mix affections throughout the characters. Like what? That is what everyone should be complaining about if they're not satisfy with "The Notebook" because of the war issue.[/size]
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Post by Ninthwoman on Jun 21, 2004 22:38:35 GMT -5
I think in terms of the romance and how the actors sell us to the idea of enduring love, The Notebook is the clear winner. But then again, I never saw what it was that everyone else saw in Titanic. I like Leo and I like Kate, but I just don't think they had this electrifying kind of chemistry Ryan and Rachel had. I don't think Leo and Kate had any kind of remarkable chemistry (i.e. like a Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan, or old school chemistry like Bogey and Bacall or Hepburn and Tracy or Astaire and Rogers). And while Pearl Harbor was also a romance of epic proportions against the backdrop of the war, the love really was competing with the war. Here, I've seen complaints about the brevity of the war scenes, but that's the way Nicholas Sparks treats it in the book - in passing - and it's clear that the war is not the emphasis of the story as it was clearly the case in Pearl Harbor.
So long story short: I think The Notebook is better than Titanic and Pearl Harbor combined - in terms of the theme of enduring love.
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Post by Angel on Jun 22, 2004 10:10:06 GMT -5
I absolutely detested Titanic. My husband and I went and I was bored to tears with this film. My hubby would tell me that we could leave, but I kept thinking that it had to get better. I never cared for Leo and Kate together, I thought that their lack of chemistry killed the movie. I am sure not too many people will agree with me, but oh well.
As for the Notebook, the chemistry really took you back to the great classic onscreen romances. It pulls you in until you forget that these are two actors. The thing that I think sets this film apart is that we can relate to this film. Not that all of us are Allie with "more money than God" and we fall for a common working class kid, it's the story of love everlasting. That despite faded memories and time taking it's toll on the mind; love conquers all. All of us want that person to grow old with and that we will sacrifise our own hearts and sanity to keep them with us for as long as possible.
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Post by reinhardtchick51 on Jun 22, 2004 19:43:11 GMT -5
the notebook was great titantic was ok but it do way out of context to what it was reallyy like i loved the notebook differently the notebook
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Post by chiclit on Jun 23, 2004 15:46:05 GMT -5
I like both movies, but I think The Notebook was better because it seemed a tad more realistic to me. Granted, they're both romances, but The Notebook just seems way more plausible because of the timeline and the imperfect nature of the relationship. And I personally connected with The Notebook in a way that I didn't with Titanic, even though I enjoyed the film. And I also didn't give Leo a second thought, but I have been on a Ryan Gosling trip for almost two weeks.  |
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Post by Ninthwoman on Jun 23, 2004 17:26:18 GMT -5
Maybe this is just me perpetuating socially constructed gender roles, but part of the reason why I personally felt there was little to no chemistry between Leo and Kate in Titanic versus Ryan and Rachel in the Notebook is that Ryan strikes me as more masculine and virile than Leo. Don't get me wrong - I think Leo has an allure of his own, but it's much more of a metrosexual allure. He's more cat-like and pretty, where Ryan seems more rustic and tough. Then, when you realize that Ryan/Noah is tough and strong on the outside and then realize he's sweet and sensitive and loving on the inside, that's a very POWERFUL combination in a man. Take that character and match with it a very vibrant and feminine Allie. They seem to fulfill those roles - masculine, strong man with feminine, delicate woman - so perfectly.
When you look at Leo and Kate, they don't seem to fall into those roles as well, even though the circumstances of their characters would seem to suggest that's the way they should be. Leo comes from working class, so you would think that working class men engage in hard manual labor and would be strong and large. But Leo (forgive me, Leo fans) was chicken-chested and seemed almost boyish. That boyishness didn't inspire in me the security that he could fight for Kate's character, Rose, which I think many women subconsciously look for in a man. In the Notebook, Allie essentially has to leave family and money and everything secure she's ever known to take a risk on Noah. You want to know that she'll be safe with Noah. And I think Ryan does inspire that strength and protection and security.
I think that's part of the reason why the Notebook works. (Please, feminists, don't crucify me!!!)
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Post by katryna on Jun 23, 2004 23:54:31 GMT -5
Then, when you realize that Ryan/Noah is tough and strong on the outside and then realize he's sweet and sensitive and loving on the inside, that's a very POWERFUL combination in a man. Take that character and match with it a very vibrant and feminine Allie. They seem to fulfill those roles - masculine, strong man with feminine, delicate woman - so perfectly. When you look at Leo and Kate, they don't seem to fall into those roles as well, even though the circumstances of their characters would seem to suggest that's the way they should be. In the Notebook, Allie essentially has to leave family and money and everything secure she's ever known to take a risk on Noah. You want to know that she'll be safe with Noah. And I think Ryan does inspire that strength and protection and security. I think that's part of the reason why the Notebook works. (Please, feminists, don't crucify me!!!) (love the last comment, haha.) The bottom line is that in the notebook, the chemistry between ryan and rahel is AMAZING and believable, and genuine...and when you're watching leo and kate, it's just not happening. rachel and ryan complimented each other in so many ways, partly because (as rachel has said somewhere) that her and ryan's personalities are so different, so they feed off each other. also, james' character is actually believable in the movie, where as rose's fiance in titanic was a bit more of a jackass (though i can't remember a whole lot about him). the fact that allie chose noah over what was already a secure, loving relationship (in a different way of course, with lon) also makes it more sweet  |
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Post by chiclit on Jun 24, 2004 20:10:36 GMT -5
Ninthwoman, I couldn't have said it better! It may not be PC, but I think its true. I know it is in my case. Ryan Gosling was some kind of hot!!!!
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Post by dd on Jul 10, 2004 14:11:43 GMT -5
no way the notebook is far better
i give the notebook 10 outta 10 the titanic was alrite but the notebook was my fave
THE NOTEBOOK IS THE BEST OF ALL MOVIES
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 10, 2004 16:49:07 GMT -5
no way the notebook is far better i give the notebook 10 outta 10 the titanic was alrite but the notebook was my fave THE NOTEBOOK IS THE BEST OF ALL MOVIES Yep, yep. The Notebook is way better! ;D |
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Post by chxo on Jul 11, 2004 12:21:33 GMT -5
You just had to put us on the spot didn't you! The Notebook and Titanic remain, with some others, my two favorite movies ever. So it's hard for me to chose one over the other... I loved Titanic for many different reasons. Obviously, number one was the chemistry and undeniable romance between Jack and Rose (Leo and Kate). But also there was the history of the actual Titanic, the event that shocked so many people and remains debatably as the most horrific shipwreck ever. As sad as it was, I find all types of history, especially the Titanic, really interesting. Another thing in the movie...The acting. I don't know if Leo really showed it in this movie, but if you'll do me a favor and watch What's Eating Gilbert Grape?, I think you'll know what I mean...Leonardo DiCaprio is an extrordinary actor by all meaning of the word. Kate Winslet was wonderful too, and pretty much all of the cast. The tragic but yet beautiful ending of Titanic made it one of my favorites as well -first, when Jack perishes at the bottom of the Atlantic with Rose promising to "never let go", and then at the very end, when they are in heaven together at last. Now to the Notebook! This is a movie that, put simply, makes you feel good. From the second I saw the preveiws I knew it would be a chick-flick, but not a bad one that consists of two people who weren't meant to be together, but the girl changes herself completely to fit the guy's needs- and they live happily ever after bla bla bla. I could tell this one would be different. And, I was right . The handsomeness of Ryan Gosling attracted my attention to him right away. He's not good looking in the classic way, but more because of his personality in the movie I think. Something like Seth from The OC, you think he's cute because of his personality. Also, Rachel McAdams' beauty is undeniable, so the two of them just plain looked good on the screen. Also, the fact that it was based in the 30's/40's was appealing too, I find that older settings are more romantic. And of course, the acting of James Garner and Gena Rowlands was amazing...I think they really made the movie what it ultimatley was - a great love story. -ch |
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 11, 2004 20:57:33 GMT -5
You just had to put us on the spot didn't you! The Notebook and Titanic remain, with some others, my two favorite movies ever. So it's hard for me to chose one over the other... I loved Titanic for many different reasons. Obviously, number one was the chemistry and undeniable romance between Jack and Rose (Leo and Kate). But also there was the history of the actual Titanic, the event that shocked so many people and remains debatably as the most horrific shipwreck ever. As sad as it was, I find all types of history, especially the Titanic, really interesting. Another thing in the movie...The acting. I don't know if Leo really showed it in this movie, but if you'll do me a favor and watch What's Eating Gilbert Grape?, I think you'll know what I mean...Leonardo DiCaprio is an extrordinary actor by all meaning of the word. Kate Winslet was wonderful too, and pretty much all of the cast. The tragic but yet beautiful ending of Titanic made it one of my favorites as well -first, when Jack perishes at the bottom of the Atlantic with Rose promising to "never let go", and then at the very end, when they are in heaven together at last. Now to the Notebook! This is a movie that, put simply, makes you feel good. From the second I saw the preveiws I knew it would be a chick-flick, but not a bad one that consists of two people who weren't meant to be together, but the girl changes herself completely to fit the guy's needs- and they live happily ever after bla bla bla. I could tell this one would be different. And, I was right . The handsomeness of Ryan Gosling attracted my attention to him right away. He's not good looking in the classic way, but more because of his personality in the movie I think. Something like Seth from The OC, you think he's cute because of his personality. Also, Rachel McAdams' beauty is undeniable, so the two of them just plain looked good on the screen. Also, the fact that it was based in the 30's/40's was appealing too, I find that older settings are more romantic. And of course, the acting of James Garner and Gena Rowlands was amazing...I think they really made the movie what it ultimatley was - a great love story. -ch I watched What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Leo acted as a retard in there. Haha.. harsh word, but yea... His acting is superior. As well as Kate.. I just think they didn't really put much historical events because the time was being consumed by the relationships. Lol.. My perspectives.  |
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Post by katryna on Jul 11, 2004 22:29:53 GMT -5
I apologize in advance to Titanic lovers, lol. I don't think Jack and Rose had great chemistry at all! Plus, i've always felt that Rose looked much too old and that Jack looked much to young and boyish...even though leo's really older than kate in reality. i don't know...i just never felt that in Titanic i was watching jack and rose... i felt like i was watching actors portraying jack and rose. in the notebook, i felt like i was 100% watching noah and allie...like THEIR story was being told to me. that may sound odd, but hopefully you understand what i mean  |
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Post by SimplyLuscious on Jul 11, 2004 22:32:20 GMT -5
I apologize in advance to Titanic lovers, lol. I don't think Jack and Rose had great chemistry at all! Plus, i've always felt that Rose looked much too old and that Jack looked much to young and boyish...even though leo's really older than kate in reality. i don't know...i just never felt that in Titanic i was watching jack and rose... i felt like i was watching actors portraying jack and rose. in the notebook, i felt like i was 100% watching noah and allie...like THEIR story was being told to me. that may sound odd, but hopefully you understand what i mean I understands what you're trying to say. Yes, Kate does look a tad older for Leo. And yes... they were lacking chemistry. Me feel the same way. Not much of a Titanic fan. |
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Post by shellyboo1217 on Jul 12, 2004 2:17:58 GMT -5
yah thats what i thought too! when i watched titanic in theathers i thought that jack looked like a lot younger then rose! rose looked more like an adult and jack looked like he was in his late teens. that and the fact that they didnt have on-screen chemistry (like noah and allie in the notebook) kinda ruined the movie for me. it didnt seem very believable. but i dont know.. thats just me. i think that now that ive watched the notebook, i have this high standard for those kind of movies now... lol |
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I mean... I didn't like it much. It's good and all, but everyone stating that they cried so much for Titanic. First, I never did cry for that movie, except when the two old folks lied in bed and was about to die. I felt so bad for the two seniors. That's the only scene I found emotional. The others... ek.. ok, I guess. 
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